In this episode of Datalicious, Carsten Sander, David Porzelt (Teavaro), and Markus Caspari (Dentsu/iProspect) discuss agentic advertising – the use of AI agents in digital media buying. They examine two competing approaches: The Ad Context Protocol (AdCP) as a revolutionary new start with a focus on transparency, and the IAB Tech Lab Agentic RTB Framework as an evolution of existing standards. This episode highlights the technical, economic, and cultural challenges facing the industry – and why it is worth acting now, despite the high risks.
Topics discussed in this episode:
- The basics of agentic advertising and Ad Context Protocol (AdCP): What does using AI agents in media buying actually entail, how does AdCP work as a new standard, and what role do the MCP and A2A protocols play in this?
- IAB Tech Lab vs. AdCP – evolution or revolution: What different approaches are pursued by the IAB Tech Lab with its Agentic RTB Framework and the AdCP initiative? Are they really in competition or do they complement each other?
- Market power, adoption, and the open-web dilemma: Why are major players missing from AdCP, what economic interests are behind this, and how can the open web compete with walled gardens?
- Practical implementation and challenges: What initial use cases and tests already exist, what technical and operational hurdles need to be overcome, and how can publishers, agencies, and advertisers get started?
Takeaways from this episode
- Agentic advertising is more than automation: While AI agents enable more efficient media buying, they also create new forms of interaction between publishers, agencies, and advertisers.
- The two standards take different approaches: AdCP focuses on transparency, human-in-the-loop, and a fresh start, while IAB Tech Lab is an evolution of existing standards with 80% latency reduction. They can coexist.
- Market power determines success: Despite the technical advantages of open-source approaches such as AdCP, major players (The Trade Desk, Amazon) decisively influence the adoption of new standards due to their market dominance.
- Act now – don’t wait: Even if some of the projects will fail, those who do not engage with agentic AI risk significantly higher opportunity costs. Early adopters actively help shape the future.
Chapters
00:00 – Introduction: Agentic advertising and transformation of the industry
03:45 – Presenting the guests: David Porzelt (Teavaro) and Markus Caspari (Dentsu/iProspect)
09:43 – The relevance of agentic AI within agencies and for customers
13:10 – Gartner prediction: 40% of all projects will fail – why invest anyway?
18:01 – Ad Context Protocol (AdCP) in a nutshell: technology, objectives, and founding members
22:16 – Transparency and auditability: the key promise of AdCP
26:33 – Google’s Universal Commerce Protocol and the role of Gemini
28:10 – Carsten Sander’s case report: first experiences with AdCP implementation
34:23 – The chicken-or-egg problem: adoption by publishers and media agencies
42:54 – Latency reduction and server-to-server communication: the IAB approach
48:30 – Evolution vs. revolution: comparing the approaches
55:45 – Time machine: outlook on the world of digital advertising in three years